you can reach us on twitter and on facebook and we'd love to hear your insight on all of that. next up, ed schult \s>> good evening men marines. welcome to the ed schultz. live from new york. let's get to work. >> on a hot summer day, they assembled here. >> let freedom ring. >> this march and that speech changed america. >> his words belong to the ages. possessing a power and prove if i unmatched in our time. >> i have a dream. >> they opened minds.

they melted hearts. >> we must keep the faith and keep our eyes on the prize. >> that was the spirit of young people like john lewis brought to that day. >> and america is that promised land for all of us. >> in the face of violence, they stood up and sat in. >> because they kept marching. america changed. >> and yes, eventually the white house changed. >> free at last, free at last. thank god almighty, we are free at last. >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. i'm ed schultz. "the ed show." we're here monday through friday 5:00 eastern. today was a big day of emotion for this country. a day of record, a day of reflection. to me, you know what, i am so

feeling so good about inside is because i think today was a day of learning for a lot of americans. there are a lot of american who's weren't alive 50 years ago today that kind of wondered what this was all about. and the neat thing about it all is that you can't change the film. it happened. it's there. this is what that generation went through. this is what it means to our country and the future. the question is, are we strong enough to pick up the torch and carry it to the next generation? you know, i believe that government has a role in our lives. i'm a liberal. but you can't legislate how someone feels. you can't legislate what someone's going to believe. you can't instill in people's hearts that this is the way it has to be. so when i say today is a day of learning, i mean it is a day of

great opportunity for america for us to pass the torch. the moral tonch information to young people who weren't alive 50 years ago today. that we are such a great country and we have overcome so much. and today was a great example for america. this is how you lead. 50 years ago today, dr. martin luther king jr. gave his historic "i have a dream" speech from the steps of lincoln mall. pretty awesome. >> i have a dream. my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. i have a dream. >> half a century later, an estimated 100,000 people came to the national mall in washington, d.c. to celebrate dr. king's

legacy and civil rights progress over the past 50 years. what do you think they're thinking right there? most of these folks right here are under 50. they weren't here back then. what are they thinking? i bet they're curious. i bet that they wanted to capture -- i wonder what it was like being there? two former democratic presidents and president broem on hand to address the american people on this historic day. and how awesome they were. massive crowd there with joy in their heart as the nation's first black president spoke from the same spot dr. king did 50 years ago today. president obama paid tribute to the civil rights activist who's marched for change in the face of adversity. >> because they kept marching, america changed. because they marched the civil rights law was passed. because they marched a voting rights law was signed.

because they marched doors of opportunity and education swung open so their daughters and sons could finally imagine a life for themselves beyond washing somebody else's laundry or shining somebody else's shoes. because they marched, city councils changed and state legislatures changed and congress changed and yes, eventually the white house changed. because they marched, america became more free and more fair. not just for african-americans but for women and latinos. asians and native americans. for catholics, jews and muslims, for gays, for americans with disabilities, america changed for you and for me. and the entire world drew

strength from that example. >> president obama highlighted the remarkable progress our country has made because of those who marched 50 years ago. he not only gave credit to politicians and leaders, but americans who fought the civil rights battle right on the frontlines. the president went on to say we must continue to be vigilant in advancing dr. king's dream. >> the arc of the moral universe may bend towards justice but it doesn't bend on its own. to secure the gains this country has made requires constant vigilance, not complacency. whether by challenging those erect new barriers to the vote or insuring that the scales of justice work equally for all in the criminal justice system is not system plie pipeline from underfunded schools to overcrowded jails. it requires vigilance. >> president obama also minced no words when it came to

focusing on the problems ahead. >> as has already been noted, black unemployment has remained almost twice as high as white unemployment. latino he unemployment close behind. the gap in wealth between race has not lessened. it's grown. and as president clinton indicated, the position of all working americans regardless of color has eroded, making the dream dr. king described even more elusive. for over a decade, working americans of all races have seen their wages and incomes stagnate, even as corporate profits soar, even as the pay of a portion of few explodes, inequality has steadily risen over the decades. upward mobility has become harder.

and too many communities across this country in cities and suburbs and rural hamlets, the shadow of poverty casts a pall over our yurkts their lives a for res of substandard schools. >> and finally the president made therousing case this country can move mountains if we put our minds to it. the fight for equality continues but our country can overcome the greatest adversity. >> that in the face of impossible odds, people who love their corrupt can change it. that when millions of americans of every race and every region, every faith and every station can join together in a spirit of brother hood, then those mountains will be made low and those rough places will be made plain. and those crooked places, they straighten out towards grace and we will vindicate the faith of those who splisd so much and live up to the true meaning of our cede as one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> truly spectacular speech by the president.

he highlighted the progress and the challenges ahead, unfortunately, as the president said, america still has a long way to go when it comes to addressing the issues of income inequality which i think is the lynchpin in all of this. this was central in dr. king's message. we would be doing dr. king a real disservice if we didn't point out the income inequality and the injustices in our finances in this country. this weekend, americans marched for jobs and justice just as they did 50 years ago. the theme of 50 years ago rings strong to this day. you cannot deny the facts as the president said, black unemployment is almost double the rate of white unemployment. voting rights obviously are under attack. public education is under attack. disturbing stories about racism that just seem to be coming at us every day. i think it's fair to say our nation has moved forward a great deal. but we have been moving in the wrong direction on some issues. as of late. the culmination of all of this? key provisions of the voting

rights act were overturned by the supreme court in june. there is very little doubt since president obama has become president elected in 2008 that racial tension is on the rice in this country with radical groups that are out there. the birth of tea party has played a major role in all of this. and civil rights leaders are taking notice. the reverend jesse jackson recently said "the tea party is the resurrection of the confederate sit." it's the ft. sumpter party. at the beginning of this broadcast, i said that we can't legislate how people feel. but we can influence how americans feel if we teach the moral fiber of the country. and what inclusiveness means. i hope americans were touched today, i hope the hearts of americans were touched today. we have a responsibility to pass the torch on of equality. and i think we made some big steps forward today.

get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think, tonight's question, are conservatives the new confederates? text a for yes b for no. go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. for more let's turn to reverend jesse jackson and congressman emmanuel clear of of missouri. great to have you with us tonight. reverend jackson, you said the tea party is the resurrection of the confederacy. what motivated to you say that, reverend? >> well, the fear mongering, the anti-civil rights, anti-voting rights, anti-women's rights, anti-labor. state's rights. that's beak the confederate agenda. they may hate us and say dr. king said that you cannot legislate attitude. you can legislate behavior. if you fight for medicare and medicaid as johnson did, if you fight for the right to vote, you cannot change attitudes but you

can change behavior. attitudes will soon follow. i think beyond the motivation that i thought president obama and carter and clinton took us to a high level. look in the rearview mirror of how far we've come from . now is the time for the lby snoemt where you deal with what it will cost to get us to where we are going. that's where enforcement of, comes in. >> congressman, it's easy to say we've come a long way in 50 years. what has to be done at this point in the president talked about some facts of what's unfolded in society and what we have to do to make this a better country. how do we get there? >> well, first, i think that we've got to try to create in this country some respect for this were president. unfortunately, you cannot can be obama and right at the same time with a certain segment of this population. and it's tragic. the president has prepped a jobs

bill. it didn't go any place. we can get a transportation bill which creates more jobs than any other form of federal spending but right now, we can't get anything through congress. we've had 22 bills approved. the lowest number in the history of the republic. it is embarrassing. if we can get friends on the other side who would use what happened during the past few days in terms of looking at the soul of america to say look, we're going to work with the president and democrats to deal with the voting rights act to make corrections in it and then move to create jobs. one final thing, ed. you know, there's income gap i think is very dangerous. no nation can long lead the world when 1% of that nation takes more than it needs and

then ma lines the rest because of their needs. and that's what we're seeing right now. >> congressman, that is "the ed show" right there. that is in my opinion the lynchpin of this country. everything changes in your life when you have a job. the stability of the family changes. the stability after your neighborhood. the education of your kids. everything changes. and we see this gap taking place in america. you're not going to be able to address it legislatively overnight or a few years. it's a generational thing. we need to talk to young people about the severity of this. reverend jackson, you said. >> may i say this? >> go ahead. >> may i? lyndon johnson opened up the war on poverty in appalachia. he whitened the face of poverty and deracialized. most poor people are not black or brown. they're white female and young. whether white, black or brown, hunger hurts. so to revive the war on poverty, a constitutional right to vote and keep investing in the south

has a way of neutralizing some of the fears and some of the ignorance and hate that's now prevailing >> congressman, what does today mean to you? did we take a step forward today? >> we did in the sense that and you said it earlier. we're sharing the history of a great moment with a new generation. and as i have said to young people as i've spoken to them, change has always been brought about by young people. even my good friend, the reverend jesse jackson had no great hairs when he stepped out and became a part of an sclc. and operation breadbasket. napoleon if you look at alexander the great. >> you leave my hair alone. >> you still got come. that's the main thing, reverend, isn't it? >> yes. >> but most -- i mean young

people have led martin luther king was 26 years old when he was drafted to be the president of the southern christian leadership conference. >> yeah. >> so i think we've got to inspire this generation and what has happened saturday through today i think has been inspirational. >> well, i hope it's a wake-up call to leaders in this country. go ahead, reverend. >> for example, student loan debt forgiveness would inspire them. many of them can't get in school and can't stay. or the loans, knocked too many out of school or the summer pel grants cut. we were sitting in this 1963 because we were immediately violated by the degradation and the racial anarchy at that time. there's a complete students agenda. they can't go to school or no diploma and no jobs. young america must fight the right to protect the vote and debt relief is a major form of stimulus. >> reverend, congressman, great

to are have you with us tonight. remember to answer tonight's questions. share your thoughts @ed show and facebook. like us on facebook. follow us on 2008er @ed show. coming up, dr. king's fight for equal education opportunities continues in the birthplace after the civil rights movement. birmingham, alabama. i'll have the details next. later as conservatives push for war in syria, we'll look back at dr. king's message of peace. and a reminder, don't forget to check out "hardball" with chris matthews. it's new time 7:00 p.m. eastern live here on msnbc. we're right back. and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.

time now for the trenders. the ed show"'s social media nation has decided and we are report package.here are today's top trenders. voted on by you.

>> somebody stop me. >> our number three trender, rodeo clowns. >> obama's going to have to just stay there. obama, watch out for those bulls. >> what the hell is that. >> the rodeo clown wore an obama mask while others taunted him. >> announcers wanted to know how many people would like to see obama trampled by a bull. >> a racist rodeo act rolls into texas. >> the mask of president obama and other presidents will be appearing at the mesquite weekend. >> presidents will be making cameo appearance and they will not be mocked by us. >> the number two trenders, mixed signals. >> if i owned 600 rao stations, rush limbaugh wouldn't be on any of them. >> rush reups. >> we completed our negotiations with the cumulus broadcasting company. i will continue to be on their rao stations for the next three years. >> while hannity makes a fool of himself again. in today's top trender, marching

on. for some reason, we have been stymied after all the progress that has been made right here in alabama. it took guts to do that then. and it's going to take guts to finish the job now. >> the fight for a fair education continues. >> this is no time to be silent. this is no time to say, well, we can't overcome. oh, yes we can overcome. >> joining me now is richard franklin, president of the birmingham federation of teaches. good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. certainly enjoyed working with you and your team in birmingham for that town hall meeting which i thought was important and i was stunned at some of the things that i heard. racism is alive and well in the south. and let's talk public education in birmingham. with the backdrop of dr. king's message what he stood for, what he advocated for, what he wanted this country to do. today, what is the state of public education in birmingham, alabama.

>> it's really sad, ed what's going on in birmingham, alabama. we're more divided than we've ever been. we just had i school board election where only 21% of the citizens came out to vote. the school system has been taken over by the state. the cities that surround the suburban cities, they're failing a lot of the students in their schools. we need to have an open conversation and not just in the alabama but around this country what's best for all kids. about reclaiming the poms for all kids. i think one reasons that we wanted to push for you to come here is other media outlets won't have that conversation that you will have. and we really appreciate that you invite us and we're having the conversation about all children. it's really sad that we are divided in communities in places like philadelphia and chicago. they're shutting down schools but also we've shut down schools in birmingham and it destroys

communities. and i just think it's really sad we don't have those conversations. >> mr. franklin, are we picking and choosing neighborhoods? is it an issue of resources just not going to some neighborhoods? >> yes, they're picking neighborhoods. it's really sad. no matter where you're located right now, we had a mean-spirited legislate tore that actually just resigned that passed an accountability act of alabama. they talked about providing a proper education for poor kids and the sad part about it this legislator actually jay love actually resigned and he's going around the state to start an education reform group with one of our former state superintendents. dr. joseph morton. and i think it's just sad that we don't have real conversations about people that were in positions that could have changed the public education for all kids in the state of alabama. but they are running around talking about reform. i think it's very hypocritical of those two to run around when

they were in pentagons to make real change for all kids in alabama. >> why only 21% of the people coming out to vote if the situation is bad? do they feel in a sense hopeless? >> yes, a lot of people feel hopeless. that's what i asked the question on facebook last night about the citizens and i believe in democracy when the citizens vote, but it's very disturbing when you look around the country and african-american communities especially, we're not voting. we feel that our politicians don't care about us. and one of the reasons i'm glad that you had me on the show today is that i inspired two of my former students today and it just happened one of them is white and one is black. and they have difficult family situations. they're teachers and educators around the country deal with everyday for some reason -- we don't choose to talk about situations in our communities ed that some of the situations that the kids are faced with and

families are faced with, it's a national crisis. some of the crime, the poverty, the hunger that's going on in our communities. the other side that wants to demonize public schools, they want to pick and choose who any school, about we in public school education, we have to take the child and nurture the child. >> when the doors open, everybody comes in. all problems, all issues come in. and the schools get the brunt of it. their labeled as failures and, of course, the lack of resources is the next thing that happens. mr. franklin, finally, what do you think dr. king would say about the educational situation in birmingham, alabama, today? >> first i think people forget that in that "i have a dream" speech in the beginning, he talked about the insufficient funds for african-americans. today he would challenge us and say that the insufficient funds

we're providing to our students not just in birmingham but throughout the country. you see a lot of people pushing back and they're talking about cutting. why would you cut in public education when it's the equalizer for every child in this country regardless of the economic and social and racial background what they're faced with. it gives them hope. that's why so many people don't have hope. >> i believe as a cable host i would be abdicating my responsibilities as someone with this platform if i did not tell the story about what is really happening when we hear that we still have a long way to go, this is one of those stories. i hope it wakes up some folks to realize that every kid in this country deserves a chance to live the dream to have that dream. richard franklin, great to have you with us tonight. thanks for joining us on the ed show". still to come, war and peace. our panel joins me to discuss how dr. king's message of peace still resonates as conservatives just can't wait to the hit syria. and later, republicans take a

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this is the only benchmark that is going to changing this congress. this is the only action that we can take that will turn this around. as emmanuel clear of, congressman from missouri said earlier, president obama has put forth a jobs package and of course, the republicans don't want anything to do with it. i hope on election day you're outraged. next question comes from rock knee. do you think the republican party could the benefit from sensitivity training? absolutely. but they would be fighting like hell who was going to pay for it. sensitivity training is good for everybody, i'd say. even right wing talkers if they ever bring themselves to it. the republican party could benefit from a lot of things. one of them is sensitivity training but as i said, they'd be fighting over the heck is going to pay for it. a lot more coming up on the ed show". stick around.

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i knew that america would never invest the necessary funds or energies in rehabilitation of its poor so long as adventures like vietnam continued to draw

men and skills and money like some demonic destructive suction tube. >> welcome back to "the ed show." dr. king found the common link between the civil rights movement and the movement for peace during the vietnam war. he was vehemently against it. today we find ourselves in an all too familiar position as our leaders consider intervention in syria? this brings america i think to a moral crossroads. austerity at the expense of the poor in this country has been the policy of the republicans and the centerpiece of the conservative movement as of late. now those same neo-cons are the ones banging the drums of war claiming that we have a moral obligation to get involved in syria? >> no one wants to start wars but you've got do what you've got to do. it doesn't matter if the public is at. >> as soon as we get back to washington, we'll ask for

authorization from congress to do something in a surgical and proportional way. >> it's going to take.many days of sustained cruz missile attacks. >> where is our ability to influence events in the region and i promise you that those who say we should stay out of syria do not understand that this is now a regional conflict. >> i don't know understand why we should be in syria, senator mccain. the word surgical, let me tell you something. if we do a strike, we're in it. okay? we don't know what the response is going to be, but let's talk about this moral obligation for a moment. do we have moral obligations here in america? is it the moral thing to do to vote 40 times to take health care away from american who's des tratly need it? is it the moral thing to do to shortchange birmingham, alabama when it comes to schools, public schools? how about that damnity voting rights things thing?

what's the moral obligation making sure that every american has the opportune chance to vote in this country? now, as far as syria is concerned, i'm all out. and mr. president, i hope you don't do this because the syrians are a different breed of cat when it comes to retaliation. do we know what the response is going to be? do we know what the response to the response to the response is going to be? do we have an end game? don't give me all these slick words as senator corker if it's it's a surgical attack. there ain't nothing about hitting a country that has nothing to do with our security. >> why is it some liberals are getting roped in by this conversation? have we not learned anything in the middle east are we going to do another ten years of war? give me a break. we used to have a segment on the show called psycho talk. i think i need to bring it back who think i will just hit here

and the russians, they won't mind a bit. look, this is a civil war. and it's really sad ta people are dying. but it does not warrant the united states' involvement in international intervention. we have been down this road before and it didn't work out real well. cooler heeds need to prevail here. joining me now on our panel is "washington post" e.j. dionne, michael eric dyson and the grio's joy reid. e.j., it seems to me that we have conflicting feelings when it comes to moral obligations. how is this one more important than the other unwithes that i mentioned? >> first of all, ed, it's great to have you back on weekdays. a lot of people are cheering. secondly, i'm glad you went after that word surgical because no matter how you feel about syria, i just don't like the word surgical applied to war. it seems war is the opposite of surgical. i think the president has a

problem here. i think on the one hand, when he talked about nation building begins at home, it was one of the most popular things he said. richard haass of the council on foreign relations who is no liberal wrote a book called foreign policy begins at home. i think we agree that's where our priorities should be. but i think the president kind of boxed himself in because he did draw a clear red line and said that if they use chemical weapons, we got to act. and i do think that democratic countries have to look at this and say there's a real problem when a dictator uses chemical weapons against his own people. so i'm very worried about this the way you are. but i'm not sure the president has a whole lot of choice given what he said, not what the neo-cons are saying. >> i would say it this way. you know, we heard mission accomplished. we heard we were going to be greeted as liberators. we heard that iraqi oil was going to pay for all of the stuff. there's been a lot of missed talking going wrong. i'd like to give the president

one misstatement. i think if we hit syria, we have no clue what we're involved in and we'd better be able to finish the deal and who knows where that's going to go. dr. die sob, i want your take on moral obligation. >> well, obviously, on this day that celebrates the 50th anniversary of dr. king's i have a dream speep, we tend focus on that speech to the exclusion of other things he said like talking about the systemic character of racism in america, like speaking about the vicious gap between the have gots and have nots and about talking about the three triplets, poverty, racism and militaryism. militaryism is something he spent a great deal of his last three years talking about and resisting. i think here i think several j. dion is absolutely right. the kind of moral paradox of on the one hand asserting the necessity for democracy and making the basis of that democracy exporting our version and brand of it and then supporting the people who seem to agree with us and at the same time, talking about the domestic

versus the foreign how we pay attention as you said, ed, to what we have here, the resources needed here. can we take care of home without paying, you know, obesence again to a war machinery that would again have us attack. the conservatives don't mind here mr. obama, you know, dropping a bomb in syria but don't want to deploy diplomacy and don't want to look at other preventive of measures that might be deployed before having to go to that route. >> joy, what would dr. king say about going to syria? >> it's interesting some of the clips that you played because i'm here at the commemoration of the march on washington. and at that time, in the early 1960s, the momentum toward war was also happening including in congress at the same time we were contemplating civil rights and voting rights and all those other things. and you had a passivist in russ tin that organize this had march on washington. then we had going forward to

2003 this in, he shall momentum toward war. enthusiasm for war is always a bad idea because you have in congress in 2003 a majority rolling right along and going ahead with the case that was being made by the bush administration so i am very war of these kinds of entanglements and unintended consequences. you've got iran linked to syria. what is the desired result? i find myself associating with john boehner's skepiccism in the letter he wrote to the president supply believe that the republicans will use anything against the president and the chances of something going correctly for the united states in syria is slim and none. e.j., the political -- i mean if the president strikes, makes the call and strikes syria, where does that leave the liberals in this country who are going to be perplexed by it? >> i think liberals will be divided and bless joy for mentioning buy yert ruston, a great man. i think what you're looking at is a possible no win for the

president because on the one hand, he says he wants a very limited strike that sends a message about how we feel about chemical warfare and kind of -- and punish the syrians in some way without getting us involved in a deeper way. but if it's ta kind of limited sfwrik shar assad survives he's going to say i stood up to the united states of america and survived. so it is a very tricky thing. >> sure it is. >> but i kind you have emp thighes with the box he got himself in because i do believe the use of chemical weapons is different from a lot of other things. we're not talking about changing syria fundamentally. just talking about taking a stand against the use of chem wal weapons. >> dr. dyson, how troubled is the president on this? is this a gut wrenching moment for him. >> of course it is. talking about the metaphor of the surgery, the surgery was successful but the patient died. with the reality here, even if you have a surgical strike, you

compromise the moral positioning of america vis-a-vis our understanding of democracy and how much we're going to intervene and when. that's a call that ultimately a president has to make. >> it's a civil war. i guess we've got to go to darfur, too. we've got a lot of work to do around the world if we're going to do this kind of stuff. >> if we're going to be a moral cop. >> that's right. thank you for being with us tonight. up next, right wing talkers hit an all-time low with their reaction to the march on washington. stay tuned. capital one ventured to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actually use, you never miss the fun. beard growing contest and go! ♪ i win! what's in your wallet?

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america? would he be pleased that nearly 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock. >> since his speech, right now let's see where we are in the black community. socioeconomics within the black community. blacks are six times more likely to be incarcerated than whites. >> a friend of mine sent me some excerpts of martin luther king's speech. he says you know rush, when i read what king said, i am reminded more of things you say than things obama says. >> it is the collapse of the traditional family that is wreaking havoc in the african-american community. the other issues while somewhat important are essentially a side show. >> lewis of course is known himself as a trail blazing civil rights figure. >> we must say to the congress, fix the voting rights act. we must say to the congress, pass comprehensive immigration

reform. it doesn't make sense a million of our people -- >> okay. >> countless civil rights leaders lost their lives fighting for justice and in that clip you just heard, congressman john lewis' speech was cut off with the sound of a gun shot? no, it pains me to say they are not pretending. renewal notice. by about $110 a month. roll the dice. care act was passed, company to go down by about $60 a month. little guy rebecca: the law works.

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show." this is the story for is the folks who take a shower after work. i like this one. the republican party, you know they don't care about your job. they won't do anything with president obama on jobs or education. they want to cut it. health care they voted 40 times to get rid of it. solid evidence shows that all conservative energy is now siding with the nut jobs. kicking off her re-election campaign for governor, nicki hailey was flanked by these guys. governor perry took the chance to drum up some red state pride. >> you have a governor who understands how to deal with republicans and democrats alike in her legislature. because at the core of this issue, it's about how do you take care of your family? how's the best way that you are allowing your family to grow, to

prosper? and those of us in red states believe the way you do that is we leave you with more of your money. >> oh, yeah. but those cheers came from a crowd of only about 60 people. a bigger group may be showing up for your labor day barbecue in your back yard this weekend. speaking of barbecue, just a few miles away in the neighbors city of anderson, south carolina, are buddy rand paul taepded an event. at this event they cooked up the crazy. more than 900 people showed up to support the campaign of tea party congressman jeff duncan. less than a week ago, duncan went on right wing radio on a program and questioned president obama's quote, validity. that's right. 900 people showed up to support a birther. the republican party isn't getting better. it's getting worse in south carolina and far more extreme. tyler jones, democratic strategist joins us now. tyler, what does this signal? you've covered south carolina politics for a long time.

what does this signal to you? >> well, it tells me the state of the republican party is not getting any better, like you said. it's getting much worse. the american people sent the republican party a message in 2012. the message was chill out. moderate a little bit. come back to the middle. you're getting a little bit too extreme for us. but instead of listening to that message, they doubled down on the extremism and the rhetoric. in these days the base of the republican party nationally but especially in south carolina, if you're not certifiable, then you're not welcome in the republican party. >> so you got to be whacky to be a republican in south carolina. there's three paerts down there. what has happened to nikki haley? she got big crowds in 2010. they fizzled as of late, haven't they? >> if this is the way she throws a rally, you can kind of imagine how she runs a state. that rally was an unmitigated

disaster. and it's just because nikki haley is very unpopular in south carolina. her approval ratings have never been out of the 30s and 40s. people forget she almost lost the 2010 election to vint sent shaheen. and ppp came out with a poll that had her trailing him in 2014. not a big shock to those of us in south carolina. >> so are we to believe rand paul would probably be the front runner in south carolina? you got scott walker down there, rick perry. they're all over there with nikki haley and the guy down the street has 900 people with rand paul. is that rand paul country, south carolina? >> i think so. i would encourage any republican who wants to run for president in 2016 to, you know, turn the crazy up to 11. because if they don't, they don't have a shot here. >> all right. tyler jones, good to have you with us tonight. interesting stuff. thank you. that's "the ed show."

"politicsnation" starts right now with reverend al sharpton live from washington, d.c. rev, that had to be one heck of a day in american history to be a part of that. >> no, i was very honored to be part of it. it was an exciting day, a great day. we're going to talk about it on "politicsnation," ed. and you did a great job saturday at the march. we really enjoyed you. you have a little preacher in you. >> i do. i haven't unleashed it all yet, rev. >> all right. all right. >> "politicsnation" starts right now here on msnbc. rev, take it away. >> all right. thank you, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the dream lives on 50 years after dr. martin luther king jr. inspired the nation. america's first african-american president reminded us -- reminded all of us that today's economic inequities mean there's still much more work to do. i was there for the day's commemor